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Dread and Terror

Last post 04-23-2008, 9:01 PM by CubFan. 10 replies.
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  • Dread and Terror

     05-03-2007, 2:27 PM

    Anyone have any first hand experience on the Dread and Terror trail near the Umpqua Hot Springs??

    Thanks

    Tony

    "There is this to be said for walking: It's the one mode of human locomotion by which a man proceeds on his own two feet, upright, erect, as a man should be, not squatting on his rear haunches like a frog." --Edward Abbey
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     07-18-2007, 7:44 AM

    BCH, I have hiked that section, but not for a couple of years. Silvi2
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     07-23-2007, 10:51 AM

    I hear if you get off on the wrong side iof the trail that it is REALLY a dread and terror to get back up.

    "There is this to be said for walking: It's the one mode of human locomotion by which a man proceeds on his own two feet, upright, erect, as a man should be, not squatting on his rear haunches like a frog." --Edward Abbey
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     07-23-2007, 9:39 PM

    Yes! I had a search up in that area a couple years ago. The girl took an unmaintained trail, off the west/north side of the main trail.  She ended up in the Boulder Creek Wilderness. It's not a place you want to be in if you aren't prepared. It's beautiful in there, but the trails are not maintained, masses of blow downs, and animal trails crossing the main (old) trail which appear to be the main trail until they die out. You need good navigation skills if you go in there. The canyon walls are vertical in a lot of places, and cell and gps and even radio communications are really spotty. We had a relay radio station set up and still had problems.

    She didn't have a map, compass, or gps. She was only in for a day hike. We were called in on day 3. She hadn't shown up for work and her boss called it in. We left the trailhead at 7 am. We tracked her for 8 hours straight, moving as fast as we could, with only a couple of 5-10 minute breaks. My partner, a deputy, was overcome by the heat, at about 3 pm, about 3 miles from the trailhead at the opposite end of the Wilderness area. (this was in July) I called in an airdrop for supplies to stave off heat stroke, but he still had to be carried out on a stokes stretcher. There was no-where to get a helicopter in to safely hoist him up, as the canyon is so steep. He would have had to be hoisted up through the tree canopy and was too weak to hold on to an extractor. We finally got out of there the next morning at 5 am. Him in an ambulance, me, feeling like a jellyfish after a hurricane.

    The paramedic who hiked in to treat him encountered a large black bear, (he estimated 600 lbs. Said it was the biggest black bear he had ever seen, and he is a SAR tech, and has been for years.) that would not back down, even though there were 4 or 5 people in his group. The area is prime berry country. They had to back out. They tried to get a mule in even though we warned them not to, but the mule got stuck up to it's belly in mud trying to circumnavigate a huge mass of wind-fall.

    Mountain Rescue found her on day 5, about 1/2 mile from where we had to stop tracking due to the heat exhaustion.  She said she heard the helicopter on day three, (as they were positioning to do the drop ) and tried to signal it by shouting. Huh?

    Besides the fact that we could easily have had a fatality of a SAR person, (yes, it was that bad, ) the next greatest difficulty for me was the hordes of mosquitos. I have lived in the woods my entire life, and I have NEVER seen mosquitos like that. We had deet on, but they were still in our eyes, nose and mouth. The most pitiful thing was the dogs. They were inhaling masses of them as they were panting, but they wouldn't quit tracking her. The mosquitos were so thick, we could kill a dozen with one slap. It was unreal. I have truly never experienced anything like it before or since. I hope I never do. I just don't have the words to describe that experience. 

    My point in telling you this horror story: If you stick to the main trail, you should be o.k. If you leave the trail, well, they don't call it Dread and Terror for nothing! Lightning

    If you get off the other side of the trail, you end up in the Umpqua River Canyon, and it is vertical in places on that side as well. Either way, don't leave the main trail unless you are looking for a real adventure, epic Bear Gryllis type adventure.

  • Re: Dread and Terror

     07-24-2007, 2:04 AM

    Thanks for the info. i have a Muzzleloader elk tag and plan to hunt the area. I was just curious is anyone had a first hand experience. We usually hunt in the snow so hopefully getting turned around won't be an issue. Sounds like you had a time of it though!

    "There is this to be said for walking: It's the one mode of human locomotion by which a man proceeds on his own two feet, upright, erect, as a man should be, not squatting on his rear haunches like a frog." --Edward Abbey
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     07-26-2007, 1:16 PM

    It was an adventure, but like I said..........beautiful in there. I know other people who hunt that area, great hunting, lots of critters, but the pack-out will be interesting. Good Luck and I hope you have a great time.

    It's really not as bad as it sounds, as long as you know what you are doing. Understand, we covered in 8 hours what it took her 3 days to cover. If we had been able to go in and take our time, I'm sure things would have been different. (except the skeeters, which should be pretty much gone by mid-august)

    The main issue for you will be what your plan is for egress if something happens.  I think you will have a splendid time.

    BTW, there are supposedly some human remains in there, that she spotted when she was lost. If you do come across them, would you please mark them on your gps, (or take really good notes if you don't get gps coverage) and let me know? She couldn't remember exactly where she saw them.

    Thanks. Silvi.

  • Re: Dread and Terror

     03-26-2008, 12:37 PM

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    Dread and Terror has been on my "Bucket List" for several year now. I am hoping to get there this year if the snow melts before archery season. A good warm-up trip is Watson Lookout. It was still standing in 2006 but kinda ragged. And of course the hot springs after...

     

    You can't get to Boulder Creek Wilderness from there without crossing several roads so the two are really different trips.

  • Re: Dread and Terror

     03-28-2008, 6:42 PM

    Wow, Silvi's account of the rescue was kinda creepy.. Not only about being lost out there (5 days! Was the girl surviving on berries?) but also finding human remains. That combination would have totally freaked me out.

    I wonder if anyone here have ever found human bones? Or decomposing bodies? Ack.

  • Re: Dread and Terror

     03-31-2008, 2:35 PM

    I did the Dread and Terror two times this past November. It is a well maintained trail much to my surprise. It's about 5 miles long and relatively flat. There are ax marks on the trees was days gone by tomark the trail. No big deal unless you happen to have the gumption to take off down the river side of the ridge. Then it's not so fun. Did not find any human remains but found an old cow elk carcass that some critters were chompin on. The bridge that crosses the North Umpqua to the hot springs has been washed out. Some brave souls were fjording the river to get to them when I was there or you could get there by hiking in on the trail that starts down river at the bride. I think it's 3 miles into them.

    "There is this to be said for walking: It's the one mode of human locomotion by which a man proceeds on his own two feet, upright, erect, as a man should be, not squatting on his rear haunches like a frog." --Edward Abbey
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     04-23-2008, 8:05 PM

    I'm still digging up old threads.  Silvi, your story left me hanging.  Did you ever get the mule out?  And did the girl mean to go off on a side trail, or is the main trail easy to miss?  (like those braided trails in Jefferson Park)


    And the Lord said, "Escape to the mountains." Gen. 19:17.
  • Re: Dread and Terror

     04-23-2008, 9:01 PM

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    Whoa!  That story makes me want to get a GPS and to purchase a 55 gal bucket of bug spray.
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